Newbie to hdmi Help needed :) - Blu-ray Forum

Tangerine Dream · 07-15-2008, 07:46 PM

Firstly let me say hello and thanks to all for welcoming me to this forum. Lot's of knowledge on here... Kudos to all...

I have a sharp lc46d64u and a sharp bdhp20 blue ray. I have the blue ray running hdmi to the tv and optical for sound to my Marantz sr5001. Want to know if I should run hdmi from blueray to marantz then to t.v. or stick with optical for sound.

I have to return the t.v. as I have a dead pixel showing on black screen as well as some fine scratches behind the lcd panel. On black screen is noticable close up with backlight shining through. Is this a common flaw with lcd? Just hoping the rep[lacement won't be worse. Nothing wrong with the set other than that.

Pelican170 · 07-15-2008, 07:47 PM

If you are able to run HDMI to and from reciever, then that is the best thing to do...

Tangerine Dream · 07-15-2008, 07:53 PM

I can run HDMI from the blue ray to the amp and then to the lcd. Is the sound gonna be any different than the optical? And how will the video be? The blue ray has one output. Will I lose any processing running through the amp as opposed to direct from the bd? My amp is hdmi1.1 so I can't see that making a difference.

kpkelley · 07-15-2008, 08:02 PM

According to the owners manual it can accept pcm over hdmi. You need to set you player up to send the audio over hdmi by lpcm, meaning that the player is decoding the audio. Then you can playback the audio through your receiver.

So, yes, you can connect your player to the receiver by hdmi and then to the tv.

With your current player you can decode Dolby TrueHD, but not DTS HD-MA. So, you can get HD audio from all PCM and Dolby True HD encoded movies, but will only get the core DTS track on DTS HD-MA encodes.

Tangerine Dream · 07-15-2008, 08:09 PM

Thanks... When I get my 3 monoprice hdmi cables this week I will run the blue ray to the amp and then to the tv for video. I am getting pcm on the amp now with optical so it's pretty good. Will have to see the difference. Will there be any video difference going through the amp instead of direct?

Pelican170 · 07-15-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tangerine Dream

Thanks... When I get my 3 monoprice hdmi cables this week I will run the blue ray to the amp and then to the tv for video. I am getting pcm on the amp now with optical so it's pretty good. Will have to see the difference. Will there be any video difference going through the amp instead of direct?

You wont be able to get the new Lossless audio formats through Optical, which you want to run..

kpkelley · 07-15-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tangerine Dream

Thanks... When I get my 3 monoprice hdmi cables this week I will run the blue ray to the amp and then to the tv for video. I am getting pcm on the amp now with optical so it's pretty good. Will have to see the difference. Will there be any video difference going through the amp instead of direct?

If you are running pcm through optical your only getting stereo sound. PCM over hdmi will give you 5.1 surround sound at lossless quality. With optical you are getting 2.0 pcm or 5.1 lossy.

Tangerine Dream · 07-15-2008, 08:16 PM

Thanks kp thats what I thought. I appreciate the answers and feedback. The new technology is something I need to learn about. I just upgraded from all my old equipment. My boss bought me the lcd as a gift. Will I lose any video quality though not running direct from the blue ray and through the amp? I see my amp showing 5.1 and 6.1 through optical though. Strange.

kpkelley · 07-15-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tangerine Dream

Will I lose any video quality though not running direct from the blue ray and through the amp?

No, the video will not be compromised.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tangerine Dream

I see my amp showing 5.1 and 6.1 through optical though. Strange.

It's probably bitstreaming, not pcm.

Beta Man · 07-15-2008, 08:22 PM

Does that Blu-Player decode the Audio???? if not, that's unfortunate (assuming firmware updates can't correct that)

kpkelley · 07-15-2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Does that Blu-Player decode the Audio???? if not, that's unfortunate (assuming firmware updates can't correct that)

From the player page here at blu-ray.com:

Quote:

Playback audio
Dolby Digital Yes
Dolby Digital+ Yes
Dolby TrueHD Yes
Dolby TrueHD (bitstream) No
DTS Yes
DTS-HD Yes
DTS-HD MA No
DTS-HD MA (bitstream) No
PCM Yes
WMA No
WMA Pro No
MP3 No
OGG No
AAC No
AAC+ No
SACD No
DVD Audio No

Tangerine Dream · 07-15-2008, 09:09 PM

Thanks all for the advice.

07-15-2008, 07:46 PM	#1
Tangerine Dream Junior Member Member since:Jul 2008	Newbie to hdmi Help needed :) Firstly let me say hello and thanks to all for welcoming me to this forum. Lot's of knowledge on here... Kudos to all... I have a sharp lc46d64u and a sharp bdhp20 blue ray. I have the blue ray running hdmi to the tv and optical for sound to my Marantz sr5001. Want to know if I should run hdmi from blueray to marantz then to t.v. or stick with optical for sound. I have to return the t.v. as I have a dead pixel showing on black screen as well as some fine scratches behind the lcd panel. On black screen is noticable close up with backlight shining through. Is this a common flaw with lcd? Just hoping the rep[lacement won't be worse. Nothing wrong with the set other than that.

07-15-2008, 07:53 PM	#3
Tangerine Dream Junior Member Member since:Jul 2008	Hmmm I can run HDMI from the blue ray to the amp and then to the lcd. Is the sound gonna be any different than the optical? And how will the video be? The blue ray has one output. Will I lose any processing running through the amp as opposed to direct from the bd? My amp is hdmi1.1 so I can't see that making a difference.

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07-15-2008, 07:47 PM	#2
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	If you are able to run HDMI to and from reciever, then that is the best thing to do...

07-15-2008, 08:02 PM	#4
kpkelley Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Framingham, MA 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:2478 Digital collection:113 Blu-ray reviews: 152	According to the owners manual it can accept pcm over hdmi. You need to set you player up to send the audio over hdmi by lpcm, meaning that the player is decoding the audio. Then you can playback the audio through your receiver. So, yes, you can connect your player to the receiver by hdmi and then to the tv. With your current player you can decode Dolby TrueHD, but not DTS HD-MA. So, you can get HD audio from all PCM and Dolby True HD encoded movies, but will only get the core DTS track on DTS HD-MA encodes.

07-15-2008, 08:09 PM	#5
Tangerine Dream Junior Member Member since:Jul 2008	Thanks... When I get my 3 monoprice hdmi cables this week I will run the blue ray to the amp and then to the tv for video. I am getting pcm on the amp now with optical so it's pretty good. Will have to see the difference. Will there be any video difference going through the amp instead of direct?

07-15-2008, 08:16 PM	#8
Tangerine Dream Junior Member Member since:Jul 2008	Thanks kp thats what I thought. I appreciate the answers and feedback. The new technology is something I need to learn about. I just upgraded from all my old equipment. My boss bought me the lcd as a gift. Will I lose any video quality though not running direct from the blue ray and through the amp? I see my amp showing 5.1 and 6.1 through optical though. Strange.

07-15-2008, 08:22 PM	#10
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	Does that Blu-Player decode the Audio???? if not, that's unfortunate (assuming firmware updates can't correct that)

07-15-2008, 09:09 PM	#12
Tangerine Dream Junior Member Member since:Jul 2008	Thanks all for the advice.

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