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Old 03-26-2009, 07:52 PM   #1
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CNN) -- Erik Roberts, an Army sergeant who was wounded in Iraq, underwent his 13th surgery recently to save his right leg from amputation. Imagine his shock when he got a bill for $3,000 for his treatment.

"I just thought it was bull---- that I'm getting billed for being wounded in Iraq doing my job. I always put the mission first, and now that I was wounded in Iraq, they're sending me bills," he said.

"I put my life on the line and I was wounded in combat, and I came back and they're not going to take care of my medical bills?"

It's a level of outrage shared by his mother, as well as the doctor who performed the surgery.

It's hard to understand why we're not taking care of guys like Erik whose injuries are clearly related to their service. They deserve the best care of anybody," said Dr. William Obremskey, an Air Force veteran and surgeon at Vanderbilt Orthopaedics in Nashville, Tennessee.

"For him to be responsible for $3,000, I think, is a little ridiculous or is uncalled for, particularly in this situation."

His mother, Robin Roberts, put it more succinctly: "Why should any soldier pay one penny of a medical bill from injuries that occurred while they were fighting in a war? That's what really frustrates me."

The Department of Veterans Affairs has now decided to pay his bill, but only after prodding from a U.S. senator who got involved after CNN brought it to his attention.

Roberts, of Warren, Ohio, is one of more than 31,100 U.S. troops to have been wounded in Iraq. An additional 4,262 have died in the war.

Roberts was wounded April 25, 2006, when roadside bombs tore through his Humvee in western Baghdad. Heat from the flames ignited the Humvee's ammunition, which popped off all around. See Roberts describe getting blown up »

Roberts and his buddies, A.J. Jefferson and Luke Murphy, were badly wounded and bleeding on the ground after jumping the from the burning vehicle. They were saved by comrades who rushed to help them.

"The truck automatically filled with smoke. There was fire coming from the middle of the truck. And I just feel my whole right side just like kind of explode," Roberts said. "I thought at that moment that my life was over, so I started praying."

All three soldiers survived the attack, but Murphy lost his leg. Days later, on his 23rd birthday, Roberts returned to the States. He underwent a series of life-saving surgeries, including 12 different ones to repair his fractured right leg. A metal rod was inserted in his upper leg to help the fracture heal.

He retired from the Army in October 2007, because of his war injuries, and enrolled in college last fall at Youngstown State University, majoring in finance and minoring in economics.

But in December, he says, a golf ball-sized lump appeared on his wounded leg. He says he went to a Veterans Affairs hospital and was told not to worry about it.

A few days later, he says, he went to the emergency room after the lump flared up more. A doctor there, he says, told him that the leg was badly infected and that it might have to be amputated.

Desperate for help, his mother contacted the Army surgeon who had saved her son's life two years earlier. That doctor referred him to Obremskey, the Vanderbilt surgeon.

The Robertses say the VA did not approve of them going outside the system. Erik Roberts says he had no choice -- it was have surgery or potentially lose his leg.

"I thought my leg was more important than the usual bureaucratic mess," he said.

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Old 03-26-2009, 08:35 PM   #2
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Such a disgrace - these folks are putting their asses on the line and this is what they have to deal with.

If anyone tells you that the US needs national healthcare, show them this article - the treatment the V.A. gives will be GOOD compared to the free for all care that would be given out here under a social health care program
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:49 PM   #3
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It's shame that it took the media getting involved to get the government to do the right thing.
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:50 PM   #4
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Man that's lame.

Glad they corrected their position.
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:52 PM   #5
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Has anyone seen the interview with the Devil Dog who died of skin cancer after the Navy refused to remove the cancer while he was enlisted because of it being a "preexisting condition." They claim to have misdiagnosed it, but it is clearly a issue of "preexisting condition."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0DA1Qma5-4

THAT is an outrage.

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Old 03-26-2009, 08:53 PM   #6
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Man that's lame.

Glad they corrected their position.
I wonder how many soldiers just have to take it
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:55 PM   #7
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Its not a Bush thing, or an Obama thing, or a Republican thing or a Democrat thing.

Its a "our government sucks and its getting worse" thing.

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Old 03-26-2009, 08:59 PM   #8
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This story doesn't surprise me one bit. I broke my ankle during physical training a month before I got out of the Army. I was told that I wouldn't receive treatment/physical therapy for it after my last day of service. Luckily my physical therapist thought that was messed up so he gave me free treatment until he thought I could manage on my own.
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Actually the worst one I've heard is they don't help you find work after injuring yourself in the line of duty...I don't really think that's right either.
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Has anyone seen the interview with the Devil Dog who died of skin cancer after the Navy refused to remove the cancer while he was enlisted because of it being a "preexisting condition." They claim to have misdiagnosed it, but it is clearly a issue of "preexisting condition."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0DA1Qma5-4

THAT is an outrage.

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That is clearly unacceptable and the guilty parties should be held responsible.

...BTW if you didn't watch the whole video, the family had to pay for the funeral.

However I've stopped being surprised at the negligence that is tolerated in the military and government.
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:05 PM   #11
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I wonder how many soldiers just have to take it
when I was in, I broke my back and my friend had a broken hip, and the doc threw both of our docs out the door and told us to stop malingering.

The next day we did a 5K run with all our normal gear. After we both fell out at about 3.5K, our 1stSgt got pissed and somehow we were both X-rayed and actually checked out. both of us spent a while in Balboa and/or on convalescent leave. Almost 4 years later, my back is is finally getting much better, but he still walks like Mr. Peanut sans the top hat and monocle. I suspect I would have finished my enlistment if I had been given light duty, but that three and a half K in armor, packs and weapons really farked it up...

STILL irritates me that I got PCND'ed out.

It happens ALL the time in and out of the military.



BTW, another "outrage" is that (iirc) the Army started trying to charge duders for lost equipment in Iraq. I think they may have stopped when word got out. I hate Admin also

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Old 03-26-2009, 09:07 PM   #12
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this is something the recruiters forget to mention
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:10 PM   #13
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BTW, another "outrage" is that (iirc) the Army started trying to charge duders for lost equipment in Iraq. I think they may have stopped when word got out. I hate Admin also
Those equipments are expensive We make the SP's pay for their equipment all the time cuz they always lose their stuff. lol.
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Actually the worst one I've heard is they don't help you find work after injuring yourself in the line of duty...I don't really think that's right either.
ACAP, which is the program the military uses to assist veterans with jobhunting is a joke. It's more a check the block kind of thing versus actually helping veterans find jobs. For those of you joining the military short term I highly suggest you start planning for your future after the military from day one. Don't wait until it's time to get out of the military. By that time you're so accustomed to the military lifestyle that you'll be clueless as to how to apply your skills towards civilian jobs. How do I know? I was a recruiter for 8 years and it always saddened me to see veterans reapplying for enlistment into the Army again because they just couldn't find a decent job in the civilian world.

Don't get me started on the G.I. bill or the Army College Fund. In a perfect situation these two will help you pay for college but most soldiers can't afford to drop everything and go to school when they get out of the military. It's kind of hard to stop paying the bills so you can just go to school full time.

Back on topic, I hope the government will start taking better care of our veterans.

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reminds me of the story about the vet who couldn't pay his heating bill and the power company turn his power off and he froze to death....so sad...

the VA Hospitals are a nightmare I hear...
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Disgraceful...these people risk their life for this country and they still want to bill the poor man for medical expencences!
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