Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by PrimusD

So if she had more similar tastes to you, you would respect her less?

Originally Posted by Deathbymonkeys

That's always been his type of logic.

Or maybe he just wants his wife to have her own opinions and not be influenced by whatever is trendy? I took his post to mean he respects her for not being obsessed with genre films if she honestly doesn't like them, and if she truly does like them he'd respect that too. Basically, being fake is nothing to respect!

[Blu-21]

Originally Posted by AllOuttaBubbleGum

Upscaled the '04 edition of the Empire dvd the other day, and it wasn't too shabby. How much would I kick myself for upgrading, given that the same master was used to create the blu-rays...and the last round of alterations had my gorge rising?

The master was definitely optimized for DVD which looks outstanding for DVD standards, but the BD does look slightly better. Not a lot in it mind you, compare for yourself - https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=15...66&i=0&l=0&a=0

[Shin sam]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Or maybe he just wants his wife to have her own opinions and not be influenced by whatever is trendy? I took his post to mean he respects her for not being obsessed with genre films if she honestly doesn't like them, and if she truly does like them he'd respect that too. Basically, being fake is nothing to respect!

That's how I took his post. My wife sounds exactly the same. She'll watch from time to time and even like some of them but most of the time ( Star Trek ) she'll drop " I'm not watching this shit!".

[Fabs]

Originally Posted by Shin sam

That's how I took his post. My wife sounds exactly the same. She'll watch from time to time and even like some of them but most of the time ( Star Trek ) she'll drop " I'm not watching this shit!".

My wife likes them, but most of the time she will just fall asleep during like 99% of my favorite movies (Star Wars included).

[Arawn]

Originally Posted by GrouchoFan

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That reminds of a question I've had for years--

Did Palpatine ALWAYS look like that but was constantly using his Force powers to "cloud men's minds," or did the fight with Mace Windu actually screw up his features? Or was he a shape-shifter who just couldn't be bothered anymore?

"George once said a really useful thing when I began playing Palpatine (in The Phantom Menace), and I don't know if he remembers this. He said, 'In a sense, your eyes are contact lenses.' In other words, the Palpatine character was the most artificial - it was as if they had grafted his face and put in (his) eyes. Because the real Palpatine is the one who bursts forth at a calculated moment in Episode III just after persuading Anakin to kill Mace (Windu). That is when the true person comes out, letting the evil fully manifest itself. The Emperor that you see in the last film looks the way he does because he's very old and very evil - it is what he always looked like. He just had this carapace of looking like a fairly ordinary looking guy, a politician that smiled a bit, and so on."

"I don't think George had made up his mind when we started shooting whether to continually show Lord Sidious as he really is after his initial transformation or if Sidious would go back forth with his appearance. I (believe) when George finally saw Dave's wonderful makeup he decided that constantly changing Palpatine's appearance would be a step backward. So the moment in the film where I make the transformation is the way I appear until the end. It's an interesting sort of study in schizophrenia really - the nice guy you saw was revealed later in the monstrous mask as the self, the Sith self."
- Ian McDiarmid

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

So many girls are fake-nerds nowadays, I kind of respect how my wife flatly refuses to watch anything genre and calls me a nerd.

There's a trade-off...since I met Annie, I've now seen every Jane Austen adaptation known to man. And still can't get her to watch football.

[Shin sam]

Originally Posted by Fabs

My wife likes them, but most of the time she will just fall asleep during like 99% of my favorite movies (Star Wars included).

God that annoys me when she falls asleep when I've got to stay awake when she puts Greece or Dirty Dancing on. My GODDDDDDDDD

[Arawn]

Greece

[AllOuttaBubbleGum]

Originally Posted by Blu-21

The master was definitely optimized for DVD which looks outstanding for DVD standards, but the BD does look slightly better. Not a lot in it mind you, compare for yourself - https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=15...66&i=0&l=0&a=0

Thanks. I guess the comparison DVDs there are PAL and therefore have a slight edge over my region one discs, but they still hold up better than I would expect against the blus.

But then there's the confounding thing about being a videophile: any degree of improvement is hard to resist.

[Shin sam]

Originally Posted by Arawn

Greece

We watch it via Google earth.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Arawn

"George once said a really useful thing when I began playing Palpatine (in The Phantom Menace), and I don't know if he remembers this. He said, 'In a sense, your eyes are contact lenses.' In other words, the Palpatine character was the most artificial - it was as if they had grafted his face and put in (his) eyes. Because the real Palpatine is the one who bursts forth at a calculated moment in Episode III just after persuading Anakin to kill Mace (Windu). That is when the true person comes out, letting the evil fully manifest itself. The Emperor that you see in the last film looks the way he does because he's very old and very evil - it is what he always looked like. He just had this carapace of looking like a fairly ordinary looking guy, a politician that smiled a bit, and so on."

"I don't think George had made up his mind when we started shooting whether to continually show Lord Sidious as he really is after his initial transformation or if Sidious would go back forth with his appearance. I (believe) when George finally saw Dave's wonderful makeup he decided that constantly changing Palpatine's appearance would be a step backward. So the moment in the film where I make the transformation is the way I appear until the end. It's an interesting sort of study in schizophrenia really - the nice guy you saw was revealed later in the monstrous mask as the self, the Sith self."
- Ian McDiarmid

Yup. He drops the mask. The rebounding Force Lightning doesn't disfigure him, just weakens him and he drops his mask. This is why Revenge of the Sith annoys me...Mr. Lucas didn't follow through with story threads he set up in Menace and Clones, just abandons them because, as he said, he ran out of time. It's really mind-boggling how someone with so much autonomy couldn't find five minutes in his own movie to reveal Anakin's true backstory (created by the Sith) which leads him to embrace the Dark Side because he's living proof of the power of the Dark Side to hold on to life. Palpatine is crazy old, he's not disfigured, he just drops the mask. It's also why Anakin is dependent on Palpatine. Palpatine kept him alive after his terrible injuries -- taking Palpatine out in Jedi is a death sentence for him. So frustrating, so easy to fix. Yes, Vader wants to kill Palpatine and take control, but he needs Luke, and when Luke throws down his sword and refuses to follow Vader to the Dark Side, and die, Vader chooses instead to follow Luke and give up his life. So frustrating. I don't know what Mr. Lucas had going on in his head...maybe too much attention paid to comments on The Force.net or the internet in general.

[Arawn]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

It's really mind-boggling how someone with so much autonomy couldn't find five minutes in his own movie to reveal Anakin's true backstory (created by the Sith)

He seems to have intended that at some point, if the content of the rough draft of ROTS is any indication. But we can see that at other times he seemed to have a different view:

"The public yawned and people weren't ready for it when I said Anakin was basically created by the midichlorians, which is a spiritual, symbiotic idea." - Lucas, quoted in Cinescape ( 2002 (?) )

"Ultimately, I would say the Force itself created Anakin." - Lucas, quoted in Vanity Fair ( February 2005 )

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Arawn

He seems to have intended that at some point, if the content of the rough draft of ROTS is any indication. But we can see that at other times he seemed to have a different view:

"The public yawned and people weren't ready for it when I said Anakin was basically created by the midichlorians, which is a spiritual, symbiotic idea." - Lucas, quoted in Cinescape ( 2002 (?) )

"Ultimately, I would say the Force itself created Anakin." - Lucas, quoted in Vanity Fair ( February 2005 )

Aren't those just two ways of saying the same thing?

[Arawn]

Pretty much, that's why I put them together.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Arawn

He seems to have intended that at some point, if the content of the rough draft of ROTS is any indication. But we can see that at other times he seemed to have a different view:

"The public yawned and people weren't ready for it when I said Anakin was basically created by the midichlorians, which is a spiritual, symbiotic idea." - Lucas, quoted in Cinescape ( 2002 (?) )

"Ultimately, I would say the Force itself created Anakin." - Lucas, quoted in Vanity Fair ( February 2005 )

The public didn't know what he was doing...if he had toughed it out and stuck the landing, "the public" would watch Menace now and say, "Oh...that's what was going on. Hey, that's kinda cool, I was too hard on that film." Again, I think the internet grumblings messed with his headspace, made him second guess himself, when sticking to his guns would have shut them all up, and fast. Nothing's going to redeem JarJar, but at least the midichlorian subplot would reveal itself as the trail of breadcrumbs it was intended to be.

[Arawn]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

sticking to his guns would have shut them all up, and fast.

I find your abundance of faith misplaced.

[happydood]

Yeah, I don't think these movies could ever have lived up to expectations on the whole. Then again I'm still baffled at how they're derided out of all proportion to what they actually are.

I totally understand peoples' disappointment. But those folks posting pictures of George Lucas eating Chinese food and talking about how he's an idiot that shouldn't be allowed within 10 feet of the thing he made have pretty much lost at life.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Arawn

I find your abundance of faith misplaced.

I have an abundance of faith in solid story structure, which is why Revenge of the Sith annoys me to this day. Anakin was going to learn he was living proof that the Dark Side could create and maintain life, while Yoda was trying to teach him to let go of personal attachments. If you found out your mystery birth was caused by a Sith Lord and you knew your wife's death was imminent, that's a temptation that would be pretty hard to resist. Mr. Lucas only hinted at Anakin's origins...people complain about Lucas' tin-eared dialog, but dropping that thread after starting it is, for me, the biggest writing disappointment in the Prequels.

[balthazar_bee]

Originally Posted by Shin sam

God that annoys me when she falls asleep when I've got to stay awake when she puts Greece or Dirty Dancing on. My GODDDDDDDDD

Dirty Dancing? Teen Mom? Texting during movies?

I don't know how you married guys do it.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

Dirty Dancing? Teen Mom? Texting during movies?

I don't know how you married guys do it.

Oh, I could make such an easy joke right now...