HBO's "Game Of Thrones" Discussion (2011-2019)

[VictoryAtNight]

OMG!! What an episode!!

I am so much in love with Arya right now!

[bradnoyes]

I definitely did not buy what this episode was selling. Really sloppy all around. Hopefully they can correct course in these last three episodes but tonight was bad.

[LegacyCosts]

Originally Posted by Zvi

I agree with you on the underestimated part. Based on what we saw, I'd say severely underestimated, despite 8 seasons of "winter is coming" and actual, first hand experience.
The whole point of building fortifications, trenches and obstacles outside of the wall would be to effectively use them, which would be as simple as standing behind said fortifications and obstacles, not in front of those?


Proud warrior doesn't mean mindless berserker, as in some intelligence is required, otherwise those proud warriors last 30 seconds and they sure would've been a lot more useful during the battle inside the walls.
I mean, Dothraki do have their reputation which was apparently well deserved, but I seriously doubt if they kept charging like that in every battle there would be any left to join D.T. at first place. They just got dumbed down for no good reason.

You make solid points I could try to counter some of them but at what end. Much of the episode was used for dramatic flair or building dread and existential horror over real strategic warfare, much like the battle of the bastards or the battle of Blackwater.

[kevin87]

Originally Posted by terp_fan99

I thought Ghost charged with the Dothraki. Guess not.

He did, he was running aloingside Jorah... then they ran into the giants in the darkness. Maybe since he's a wolf, he saw it far enough of him to be like nah man, I'll wait on this one, and ran off.

EDIT: Here I gifed it for you

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

I can't imagine the Golden Company being very effective against Drogon and Rhaegal.

Assuming Rhaegal lived, after he fought with icy Viserion and he crashed and Jon fell off his back, I don't remember seeing him again. Drogon could also have been too wounded and might die... because stupid Dany just let the dead crawl all up on him instead of FLYING AWAY ASAP. Did Gilly get killed? I hope not, I'm still waiting on her and Gendry to meet for a mini Skins reunion lol

Apart from that, holy shit.

[pi2loc]

Rhaegal is alive, you can see him in the preview of the next episode. Ghost is alive as well. Woooo!

The episode was kind of bittersweet to me. It was good but I thought the way the Night King was defeated could have been better with the same outcome (Arya's a sneaky bastard!). All he did in the entire series was walk from one place to another, raise his arms and now he's gone lol. Kind of lame. We never saw him using the other White Walkers either.

All secondary characters are gone. Lyanna Mormont was the real badass of this episode. No special training whatsoever and she fought til her last breath. Bravo!

Can't wait for next episodes. Cersei must fall!

[MattJ1991]

I'm sad to see such mixed feelings on this episode, with more negative than positive on this particular forum. I expected more deaths of prominent characters but the deaths that did happen were pretty impactful. The biggest grape I have is that we saw a lot of characters getting swarmed and somehow living too many times but it didn't ruin the episode for me. Arya killing the Night King was a cool moment and I have no problem with it. I'm glad the zombies are out of the way now so we can focus on the remaining humans.

I personally didn't have a problem with the picture quality, I think they were purposefully making it hard to see at the beginning of the battle but whenever a character I was supposed to know showed up I could see them clearly. I think a big part of why I could see better was that I watched it after the fact on demand as opposed to watching the live feed which usually has a lot more compression. Either way this will look loads better when I get my hands on the UHD Box Set but it didn't bother me at all tonight.

[cuzzin]

I love this guy's channel. I was nodding my head in agreement through his entire episode breakdown
Worth a watch:

https://YouTube.com/watch?v=hM6f4yPFb24

[Ray Jackson]

I feel numb right now.

That was one of the most intense 85 minutes I’ve ever had watching a television show or a movie...EVER.

A surprisingly small major character body count, given the expectations.

The lighting was awful in spots...couldn’t see shite.

If it was intended to be that way, then whatever...but it wasn’t good.

I thought Brienne, Jaime and Tormund were poorly used. Their characters had relatively little impact on the episode.

...sure that will change for the attack on Kings Landing.

Watching Dany

[Show spoiler]sobbing over the body of Ser Jorah

was a gut punch.

[VictoryAtNight]

When the undead had started to overrun the castle, I thought Sansa and Tyrion were about to commit suicide when they pulled out their blades.

[Ray Jackson]

Theon totally redeemed himself.

No more Reek.

Only Theon.

...Theon Stark.

[Ray Jackson]

The Night King turned out to be a punk.

He wanted no part of Jon, aka Aegon Aunt Fawker, one on one.

...just a Mafia boss thug.

[acrylick]

BRAVO to this amazing score masterpiece!

Game of Thrones Soundtrack - Battle of Winterfell - "The Night King" - YouTube

[Allgood]

Originally Posted by MattJ1991

I'm sad to see such mixed feelings on this episode, with more negative than positive on this particular forum. I expected more deaths of prominent characters but the deaths that did happen were pretty impactful. The biggest grape I have is that we saw a lot of characters getting swarmed and somehow living too many times but it didn't ruin the episode for me. Arya killing the Night King was a cool moment and I have no problem with it. I'm glad the zombies are out of the way now so we can focus on the remaining humans.

I personally didn't have a problem with the picture quality, I think they were purposefully making it hard to see at the beginning of the battle but whenever a character I was supposed to know showed up I could see them clearly. I think a big part of why I could see better was that I watched it after the fact on demand as opposed to watching the live feed which usually has a lot more compression. Either way this will look loads better when I get my hands on the UHD Box Set but it didn't bother me at all tonight.

I feel the same way. I felt like I enjoyed the episode, but some parts were flat at most. Jaime and Brienne had cool shots, but served no purpose. Pod and Gendry didn't even have real parts. I wasn't expecting a whole storyline, it was obvious the story would surround Jon and Dany, but it would have been nice to see some shots of those four especially. Felt like Sam had more time and he made himself look like a wuss (sorry Sam I still luv ya bro).

I like Arya's scene, but it felt too easy passing by the dead, even if you are a faceless. Either way, still a badass scene and it had me cheering loudly. I think the real MVPs are Lyanna, Ser Jorah, and Beric.

People online are talking about how Beric was the prince promised for saving Arya and protecting her to fulfill her duty. Pretty epic stuff. Makes me appreciate this episode.

[pi2loc]

Originally Posted by cuzzin

I love this guy's channel. I was nodding my head in agreement through his entire episode breakdown
Worth a watch:

https://YouTube.com/watch?v=hM6f4yPFb24

Really great video. I just subscribed.

I actually think the same, I would rate the episode 6.5/10 though, but the guy is right and has the right to speak his mind.

[NoFro]

For years people told me that picture quality wasn't that important and now everyone I work with is complaining about this episode being incomprehensible and poorly shot when in reality they're just dealing with a shot at night, action heavy episode and poor quality streams filled with banding, macroblocking and other compression artifacts. I know because I dealt with it myself this morning, using the catch up for the channel who have the rights to air GoT in the UK. The stream was awful. I think it's only supposed to be 720p anyway but I reckon a DVD would have done a better job.

[pi2loc]

Originally Posted by acrylick

BRAVO to this amazing score masterpiece!

[Show spoiler]Game of Thrones Soundtrack - Battle of Winterfell - "The Night King" - YouTube

Ramin is incredible. I hope he scores more movies in the future.

[OutOfBoose]

The episode impressed me overall, outside a few silly or fan service moments, but death of NK wasn't earned. The real endgame is in KL and expected more casualties in this episode.

[Ray Jackson]

It does seem like a wiser battle strategy would’ve been to dig fire trenches every 100 yards, a few hundred yards out from the walls. Then let Jon and Dany hit the whites with dragon fire and kill as many of them as possible before having to sacrifice any soldiers.

Then, when that had run it’s course, lite the trenches. Even if the whites overran one fire trench, there would still be several others to go through.

...anything but a full on frontal assault to start things off.

You need to avoid sustaining casualties for as long as possible, knowing that every dead soldier will soon become a new soldier in the Army of the Dead.

[Josep5349]

Decent episode. Going into it I was concerned about the darkness. I have a decent tv so thankfully it wasn’t too bad for me. Though I would have preferred if it all took place during the daytime, a shame not to see it all in its full glory. An hour and a half of battle could have been a very boring affair, so I was glad it wasn’t just that. The way they built up the tension was great.

I’m more than ok with how the NK met his end. As cool as he was, he was a non-character, a big one on one showdown would have been an empty exercise, as he didn’t earned it imo.

Originally Posted by ChadFL

So only one dragon is still alive, right?

Wrong.

Originally Posted by ArrestedDevelopment

I was really hoping that

[Show spoiler]the Night King and white walkers would be part of the end game of the show.

That was never going to happen. The endgame will involve characters who have long standing and complex relationships with each other, which the audience is invested in. Not some character-less one trick pony ice-terminator we aren’t emotionally invested in.

[A Sith Lord?]

I still think it was a bad move to send the Dothraki in that early. Huge waste of your mobility.