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drtre81 · 03-14-2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by slaizer2000

I keep hearing ID4 is so good.
I wish to watch it but would like to see the first 3 movies before watching Id4 so i know what is happening.

Does anyone know where I can find ID1, ID2 and ID3. Will there ever be a box set for this? And I see ID4 is kind of old now and if so good a movie then where is ID5?

lol WAT

davcole · 03-14-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Solid audio & video presentation and a fun movie.

I Netflixed it last weekend and I must say I was pleased with the audio/video transfer. I can't think of any complaint i'd have about the video, very solid to me. As for the audio, it delivered everything you'd expect of a lossless audio track. Some very deep, solid bass cleanly delivered and very intense surround presence.

Variable · 03-14-2009, 01:14 PM

I want to own this. I don't consider it a great movie but it's fun as hell and I haven't seen it in ages.

haste · 03-14-2009, 02:10 PM

i have yet to see a blu-ray thats looks as bad as an upconverted dvd...ive seen over 300 blu-ray movies...

Galley · 03-14-2009, 02:16 PM

There was both a prequel book, Silent Zone, and a sequel book, War in the Desert released.

tvine2000 · 03-14-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Man

The PQ was great.

the pq was ok,but then again sometimes its the transfer,sometimes it was the director,and how he or she wanted it to look.a good ex.28 days later.
that bd is rated avc@36 mbps yet it looks soft and out of focus. i thought dam fox,then i found out it was shot using a dt camcorder!thats the way the director wanted it to look.
based on that you have to give it a high pq rating.
i think thats the part people are going have to adjust to with blu-ray movies,
the way the director wanted it to look and blu-ray is going bring that out,good or bad.
like i said sometimes its the studio ex.the mask& interview with a vampire.
both transfers by guess who...warners bros.or i should say lazy bros.those are two titles to rent not buy,i give both a 3 rating -pq

Achilles3 · 03-14-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tvine2000

the pq was ok,but then again sometimes its the transfer,sometimes it was the director,and how he or she wanted it to look.a good ex.28 days later.
that bd is rated avc@36 mbps yet it looks soft and out of focus. i thought dam fox,then i found out it was shot using a dt camcorder!thats the way the director wanted it to look.
based on that you have to give it a high pq rating.
i think thats the part people are going have to adjust to with blu-ray movies,
the way the director wanted it to look and blu-ray is going bring that out,good or bad.
like i said sometimes its the studio ex.the mask& interview with a vampire.
both transfers by guess who...warners bros.or i should say lazy bros.those are two titles to rent not buy,i give both a 3 rating -pq

Poor choice by the director because I'm pretty sure the majority of the people want their movies to look as good as possible. All studios should keep that in mind and get it right. I like 28 Days Later, but the PQ isn't great so it's a no buy for me. Why upgrade to Bluray if a movie looks the same as on DVD? I hope other directors find this as a bad example. Just make your movies look as good as they can

Kyo28 · 03-14-2009, 06:48 PM

I think the transfer was very well done. Overall, the picture looked better than the DVD counterpart. Two things to keep in mind:
- the special effects are dated and the enhanced details in HD bring that out even more
- it's a catalog title (and not a very recent one at that) and as such, you can't expect it to have reference grade PQ

So, all things taken into consideration, I was pretty happy with this disc. It's not demo material but having the above points in mind, I didn't expect it to be.

Pirate King · 03-14-2009, 07:06 PM

I thought the PQ was very good, and the AQ was very good. Not the best I have seen or heard, but worth every nickel I paid for it. Sometimes I get the feeling that there are those who feel PQ and AQ is the most important thing about a particular Blu-ray. What about the movie itself? ID4 is a great action movie with a great story line. Bad guys come to earth...start pushing us around, then we find a way to defeat them.. and the good guys kick the bad guys ass! Just a truly great film and one that I would enjoy watching even if the PQ and AQ were less than what it is. I judge a movie first and formost for the movie itself. Everything else is just icing on the cake.

I have been around before VHS, thought VHS was great... then Laserdisc... then DVD... and I thought Wow, what great PQ and AQ. And at the time, it was great PQ and AQ. Right now Blu-ray is the best technology we have and I believe it will be with us for quite a while, but someday there will be something better... and better.. and better.... But the story and emotions that the movie brings to us will forever remain the same.

I guess what I am trying to say is that I love movies and I want to view them with the best technology that is available. However, I don't want to ever get to the place where the technology becomes more important than the movie. I hope that makes sense. And, again, for the record, I think ID4 looks and sounds great and I am very happy with my purchase of this outstanding film.

samuelj · 03-14-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by P|-|3@R

bought it, and thought it looked good, it was worth the $18 i payed for it

yeah, It was pretty good,well worth buying.

KilloWertz · 03-15-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Achilles3

Poor choice by the director because I'm pretty sure the majority of the people want their movies to look as good as possible. All studios should keep that in mind and get it right. I like 28 Days Later, but the PQ isn't great so it's a no buy for me. Why upgrade to Bluray if a movie looks the same as on DVD? I hope other directors find this as a bad example. Just make your movies look as good as they can

In the end, it's the person you quoted making the PQ seem worse than it really is. Like Kyo said, the movie can't be reference due to its age and the special effects being dated. In the end, I would just be happy that ID4 looks really good on BD for the age of the film. You can't expect every catalog title to get an extensive remaster job like Blade Runner got. Nor will every movie look amazing on BD, no matter how old.

NL197 · 03-15-2009, 01:00 AM

ID4 is one of my all-time favorite films. I was in a theater more often in the summer of 1996 than ever before or since. I adore every second of this film. It's almost universally despised, but that's none of my concern. I love it. Always have, always will.

I was never a fan of the DVD because of how soft it was, almost out of focus compared to the average looking movie. When I popped in the Blu-ray and watched it for the first time, it was like watching it for the first time - in a movie theater in the summer of 1996.

Essentially, all I can say about the image quality (since the audio speaks for itself, it's thunderous and incredibly engaging and immersive) is that because I was so clearly reminded of what it was like to watch it in a movie theater in July 1996, this Blu-ray disc DID NOT LOOK like "High Definition".

When I think of the term "High Definition" I think digital. I think of CGI animated movies.

No. This Blu-ray disc looked like I was watching FILM, only that film happened to be playing on my plasma TV instead of being front-projected in a large theater.

That's the highest compliment I could give the image quality of this disc.

If a Blu-ray's image has the ability to remind you of your original theater experience, or perhaps create that experience in your home, then that should mean the disc was a success. It was for me. I'm glad by some of the responses that it was for some of you.

KilloWertz · 03-15-2009, 03:57 AM

ID4 is also one of my all-time favorite films as well. I just don't really remember what it looked like back when I watched it in the theater in 1996.

Either way though, I was very satisfied with how it looked. I think it's silly that anyone can have any real problems with the disc in terms of PQ (AQ speaks for itself, like you said).

Achilles3 · 03-15-2009, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by killowertz

In the end, it's the person you quoted making the PQ seem worse than it really is. Like Kyo said, the movie can't be reference due to its age and the special effects being dated. In the end, I would just be happy that ID4 looks really good on BD for the age of the film. You can't expect every catalog title to get an extensive remaster job like Blade Runner got. Nor will every movie look amazing on BD, no matter how old.

LOL I was talking about 28 Days Later though, I loved ID4 on VHS and then on DVD, looking forward to owning it on Blu-ray but still waiting for a good price. Based on the reviews, I'm sure it's a real quality Blu.

Galley · 03-15-2009, 01:11 PM

It's definitely not the best-looking disc I've ever seen, but I still love it. It's my favorite film.

KilloWertz · 03-15-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles3

LOL I was talking about 28 Days Later though, I loved ID4 on VHS and then on DVD, looking forward to owning it on Blu-ray but still waiting for a good price. Based on the reviews, I'm sure it's a real quality Blu.

It was kind of hard to tell which one you were talking about. I thought you were talking about ID4 and then was just mentioning 28 Days Later afterwards. Sorry.

richieb1971 · 03-15-2009, 06:59 PM

ID4 i'd give a 7/10. Its not a bad blu ray by any stretch, but its not reference quality either.

mredman · 03-15-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crazy88

Im not sure where either, I believe it was in a IMDB forum (so i think) but yes still remember being told it looked upconverted. Wow no way! Thats why I rather go my way in terms of judging a BD video quality now, then just being told about it from someone elses perspective as maybe that someone does not have its TV properly calibrated. For example a lot of bad talk was giving to the Blu-ray releases of Home Alone, Carrie, and original Amityville Horror also from Fox release, and when I saw all three, I was really impressed with the overall look and presentation of them (specially Home Alone - stellar PQ) and Carrie definitely showed a lot of age in presentation but there were scenes that were mighty appetizing to look at. Same about Amityville.

Now from experience I now know not to take anyone's word for everything Blu-ray, but rather judging PQ through what my own eyes think it looks good or bad.

While we are on the subject. Also those idiots who say TDK looks bad couldn't be more wrong. TDK looks fabulous on BD

reanimator · 03-25-2009, 04:44 AM

Amazon just dropped the price on this one down to $16.99. Has it been lower, should I wait?

MaCruz · 03-25-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by reanimator

Amazon just dropped the price on this one down to $16.99. Has it been lower, should I wait?

I would get it... actually I bought ID4 this past monday @ bestbuy for $16.99. It's on sale there now, so I would get!

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03-14-2009, 01:14 PM	#43
Variable Special Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Northern New Jersey Blu-ray collection:12	I want to own this. I don't consider it a great movie but it's fun as hell and I haven't seen it in ages.

03-14-2009, 02:10 PM	#44
haste Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:87 Blu-ray reviews:1	i have yet to see a blu-ray thats looks as bad as an upconverted dvd...ive seen over 300 blu-ray movies...

03-14-2009, 02:16 PM	#45
Galley Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Greenville, SC 4K collection:117 Blu-ray collection:634 DVD collection:41 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:7	There was both a prequel book, Silent Zone, and a sequel book, War in the Desert released.

03-14-2009, 06:48 PM	#48
Kyo28 Power Member Member since:Jun 2008 Blu-ray collection:446 Blu-ray reviews:12	I think the transfer was very well done. Overall, the picture looked better than the DVD counterpart. Two things to keep in mind: - the special effects are dated and the enhanced details in HD bring that out even more - it's a catalog title (and not a very recent one at that) and as such, you can't expect it to have reference grade PQ So, all things taken into consideration, I was pretty happy with this disc. It's not demo material but having the above points in mind, I didn't expect it to be.

03-14-2009, 07:06 PM	#49
Pirate King Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Texas Home Theater Gallery:25 Blu-ray collection:1851 Blu-ray reviews: 4	I thought the PQ was very good, and the AQ was very good. Not the best I have seen or heard, but worth every nickel I paid for it. Sometimes I get the feeling that there are those who feel PQ and AQ is the most important thing about a particular Blu-ray. What about the movie itself? ID4 is a great action movie with a great story line. Bad guys come to earth...start pushing us around, then we find a way to defeat them.. and the good guys kick the bad guys ass! Just a truly great film and one that I would enjoy watching even if the PQ and AQ were less than what it is. I judge a movie first and formost for the movie itself. Everything else is just icing on the cake. I have been around before VHS, thought VHS was great... then Laserdisc... then DVD... and I thought Wow, what great PQ and AQ. And at the time, it was great PQ and AQ. Right now Blu-ray is the best technology we have and I believe it will be with us for quite a while, but someday there will be something better... and better.. and better.... But the story and emotions that the movie brings to us will forever remain the same. I guess what I am trying to say is that I love movies and I want to view them with the best technology that is available. However, I don't want to ever get to the place where the technology becomes more important than the movie. I hope that makes sense. And, again, for the record, I think ID4 looks and sounds great and I am very happy with my purchase of this outstanding film.

03-15-2009, 01:00 AM	#52
NL197 Senior Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:46 Blu-ray reviews:3	ID4 is one of my all-time favorite films. I was in a theater more often in the summer of 1996 than ever before or since. I adore every second of this film. It's almost universally despised, but that's none of my concern. I love it. Always have, always will. I was never a fan of the DVD because of how soft it was, almost out of focus compared to the average looking movie. When I popped in the Blu-ray and watched it for the first time, it was like watching it for the first time - in a movie theater in the summer of 1996. Essentially, all I can say about the image quality (since the audio speaks for itself, it's thunderous and incredibly engaging and immersive) is that because I was so clearly reminded of what it was like to watch it in a movie theater in July 1996, this Blu-ray disc DID NOT LOOK like "High Definition". When I think of the term "High Definition" I think digital. I think of CGI animated movies. No. This Blu-ray disc looked like I was watching FILM, only that film happened to be playing on my plasma TV instead of being front-projected in a large theater. That's the highest compliment I could give the image quality of this disc. If a Blu-ray's image has the ability to remind you of your original theater experience, or perhaps create that experience in your home, then that should mean the disc was a success. It was for me. I'm glad by some of the responses that it was for some of you.

03-15-2009, 03:57 AM	#53
KilloWertz Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Columbiana, OH 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1042 DVD collection:65 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:82	ID4 is also one of my all-time favorite films as well. I just don't really remember what it looked like back when I watched it in the theater in 1996. Either way though, I was very satisfied with how it looked. I think it's silly that anyone can have any real problems with the disc in terms of PQ (AQ speaks for itself, like you said).

03-15-2009, 01:11 PM	#55
Galley Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Greenville, SC 4K collection:117 Blu-ray collection:634 DVD collection:41 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:7	It's definitely not the best-looking disc I've ever seen, but I still love it. It's my favorite film.

03-15-2009, 06:59 PM	#57
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	ID4 i'd give a 7/10. Its not a bad blu ray by any stretch, but its not reference quality either.

03-25-2009, 04:44 AM	#59
reanimator Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2008 4K collection:2198 Blu-ray collection:3877	Amazon just dropped the price on this one down to $16.99. Has it been lower, should I wait?

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