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Blu-Ron · 05-14-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Yet you 've watched all 3 of them? Even when they are the worst movies you've ever seen. You know I watch Godfather once, hated it so much, it just wasn't my type of movie. I never bothered watching the other 2, I figured it would be more of the same. Yet everyone who hates Episode 1 stillwent and watch 2 & 3. Then they've spend the last 10 years complaining about it? Did Lucas put a gun to all your heads and force you to go?

As much as I respect you and your wonderful posts, everytime you talk about Star Wars...it makes my face turn beat RED!
I'm very happy that you enjoy the pre-quels and all. I really am. But don't force them on others.
Millions of us that were there since the very beginning really hate them and find them to be watered down.
I'll take it a step further...I personally think that the pre-quels should have never been produced. Also, George (ruined my childhood) Lucas should have never made changes to the original trilogy back in 1997.
And to answer your question...I think us vetrans still went to see the pre-quels hoping that George rediscovered his magic. It just didn't happen. Same reason why I went to see Indy:KOTCS. In the hopes that he wrote a solid story for it. Instead I went back home after the movie finished and I wanted to break something. I know that you loved the new Indy and thats all good, just keep in mind that for every new fan, there is another passionate fan that wants to burn all the film stock and pretend that it never happend.

I think I'm done now. LOL.

MCT · 05-14-2009, 06:17 PM

I mean besides the obvious stupid shit like Jar Jar and minichoridans or whatever the hell Lucas pulled out of his arse when he was writing these things...

the prequels RUINED the character of Darth Vader. I used to always have this image in my head of Anakin being a headstrong yet wise young Jedi who just happened to be subtly seduced by the power of the dark side. It was supposed to be tragic and heartfelt. In the prequels, Darth Vader was reduced to a whiny, spoiled idiot who rolls around in grassy knolls with his girlfriend. I mean, he turned to the dark side mainly because of a bad dream. A bad dream! And on top of that, Palpatine never said he could save others from death, he said they'd have to work together to discover the secret. There was no guarantee, yet Vader became his apprentice anyways. I remember sitting in that theater with my mouth hanging open at Anakin's utter stupidity. THAT was the biggest sin the prequels committed in my eyes. Hardcore bad ass Darth Vader was actually just a giant stupid pusssy.

Chordata · 05-14-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MCT

Revisionist communist propoganda.

There is not a single character in the entire prequel trilogy anyone truly cared about. Mace Windu? Oooooh, yeah, real compelling wise Jedi master. In the OT, everyone from Greedo to Obi Wan to the Sandpeople to the Emperor had an impact on the SW Universe. Not to mention the special effects in the OT were much more realistic. Real sets were used as well. This arguement is completely and utterly lame.

We share some of the same frustrations.

Batman1980 · 05-14-2009, 06:27 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xP3fI7yn5s
I just have to disagree, I think Episode III is the best movie ever. Sure some of the lines were horrible and I didn't agree with everything that happened in it. Still the idea that the ultimate hero failed because of his love for his wife is something that appeals to me...especially since he didn't really fail. In the end, he destroys the bad guy and saves the galaxy from Palpatine.

Blu-Ron · 05-14-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by O_V_N

We share some of the same frustrations.

Millions of fans do.

iori · 05-14-2009, 06:33 PM

I vote Tek wars

drobswim13 · 05-14-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MCT

I mean besides the obvious stupid shit like Jar Jar and minichoridans or whatever the hell Lucas pulled out of his arse when he was writing these things...

the prequels RUINED the character of Darth Vader. I used to always have this image in my head of Anakin being a headstrong yet wise young Jedi who just happened to be subtly seduced by the power of the dark side. It was supposed to be tragic and heartfelt. In the prequels, Darth Vader was reduced to a whiny, spoiled idiot who rolls around in grassy knolls with his girlfriend. I mean, he turned to the dark side mainly because of a bad dream. A bad dream! And on top of that, Palpatine never said he could save others from death, he said they'd have to work together to discover the secret. There was no guarantee, yet Vader became his apprentice anyways. I remember sitting in that theater with my mouth hanging open at Anakin's utter stupidity. THAT was the biggest sin the prequels committed in my eyes. Hardcore bad ass Darth Vader was actually just a giant stupid pusssy.

For the most part, I will have to agree with you. I will disagree in the fact that he should have been quite nieve in the first episode like he was, since he was unaware of his gift. That is why I think Episode 1 was not a bad film. It is when Hayden Christensen came in that I thought it went way downhill. This is where I do agree with you. He was reduced to a whiny baby in these episodes to the point where I could not see a connection at all between the Skywalker in Ep.2-3 and Darth Vader. Granted, he turned that way after realizing that Padme died, but he was already on that path from the death of his mother. I just think he was poorly portrayed by Christensen (even though he has had some other good films).

Batman1980 · 05-14-2009, 06:43 PM

Just sick of people whining about SW and Lucas. If you hate the movies SO much, don't watch them! I like the PT more than the OT, oh well. If everyone agreed, this would be a very boring place to live if you ask me. Star Wars is better than Star Trek, can't we just leave it at that?

drobswim13 · 05-14-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Just sick of people whining about SW and Lucas. If you hate the movies SO much, don't watch them! I like the PT more than the OT, oh well. If everyone agreed, this would be a very boring place to live if you ask me. Star Wars is better than Star Trek, can't we just leave it at that?

Haha, you're right, it would be a boring place to live. But can you agree with me in that there could have been a better casting choice for Anakin in Ep. 2-3??

assydingo · 05-14-2009, 06:46 PM

Star Wars is always at least decent. Haven't seen Star Trek.

Batman1980 · 05-14-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by drobswim13

Haha, you're right, it would be a boring place to live. But can you agree with me in that there could have been a better casting choice for Anakin in Ep. 2-3??

Hey Lucas made the movies, he used the reasoning that Christensen portrays anger well on-screen. TBH, my choice would've been Ryan Phillippe or Ryan Gosling but I wasn't asked for my opinion.

kurtlingle · 05-14-2009, 06:50 PM

Star Wars.

Lightsabers, Jedi, Sith, WARS, Boba-Fett, Darth Vader, the Death Star, Wookie planet, the FORCE, Darth Maul, the Emporer, Storm Troopers, the Falcon, Han Solo, Luke and Leia, Han gets frozen, 2nd death star, way cooler toys, sound tracks out of this world, the opening crawl, did I mention lightsabers?

Monkey · 05-14-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Hey Lucas made the movies, he used the reasoning that Christensen portrays anger well on-screen. TBH, my choice would've been Ryan Phillippe or Ryan Gosling but I wasn't asked for my opinion.

Keanu Reeves would have been awesome, haha

drobswim13 · 05-14-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey

Keanu Reeves would have been awesome, haha

"So, this is a...lightsaber?? Dude..."

MCT · 05-14-2009, 06:55 PM

I always felt Carl Weathers should have played Anakin.

iori · 05-14-2009, 06:57 PM

Terry Crews should have played Mace Windu

MCT · 05-14-2009, 07:01 PM

LOL @ Terry Crews as Mace Windu. The performance would have been alot more spirited at the very least.

"You actin like a real McJedi Assshole right now, Anakin"

Batman1980 · 05-14-2009, 07:04 PM

I know, I know! Dave Chappelle as Jedi Master Mace Windu!

drobswim13 · 05-14-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

I know, I know! Dave Chappelle as Jedi Master Mace Windu!

Now that would have been somethin. "Yo, Anakin, f*** this s***, I say we just let the whole Republic get blown the f*** up. That way, we won't have to protect nobody"

iori · 05-14-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DVDave

He'd crack from the pressure and go into hiding.

Sounds like he should play Obi Wan

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05-14-2009, 06:17 PM	#122
MCT Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2008 Blu-ray collection:499 Blu-ray reviews: 8 Trading Score:1	I mean besides the obvious stupid shit like Jar Jar and minichoridans or whatever the hell Lucas pulled out of his arse when he was writing these things... the prequels RUINED the character of Darth Vader. I used to always have this image in my head of Anakin being a headstrong yet wise young Jedi who just happened to be subtly seduced by the power of the dark side. It was supposed to be tragic and heartfelt. In the prequels, Darth Vader was reduced to a whiny, spoiled idiot who rolls around in grassy knolls with his girlfriend. I mean, he turned to the dark side mainly because of a bad dream. A bad dream! And on top of that, Palpatine never said he could save others from death, he said they'd have to work together to discover the secret. There was no guarantee, yet Vader became his apprentice anyways. I remember sitting in that theater with my mouth hanging open at Anakin's utter stupidity. THAT was the biggest sin the prequels committed in my eyes. Hardcore bad ass Darth Vader was actually just a giant stupid pusssy.

05-14-2009, 06:27 PM	#124
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xP3fI7yn5s I just have to disagree, I think Episode III is the best movie ever. Sure some of the lines were horrible and I didn't agree with everything that happened in it. Still the idea that the ultimate hero failed because of his love for his wife is something that appeals to me...especially since he didn't really fail. In the end, he destroys the bad guy and saves the galaxy from Palpatine.

05-14-2009, 06:33 PM	#126
iori Power Member Member since:Apr 2009 Trading Score:2	I vote Tek wars

05-14-2009, 06:43 PM	#128
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	Just sick of people whining about SW and Lucas. If you hate the movies SO much, don't watch them! I like the PT more than the OT, oh well. If everyone agreed, this would be a very boring place to live if you ask me. Star Wars is better than Star Trek, can't we just leave it at that?

05-14-2009, 06:46 PM	#130
assydingo Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:483 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:3	Star Wars is always at least decent. Haven't seen Star Trek.

05-14-2009, 06:50 PM	#132
kurtlingle Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:82	Star Wars. Lightsabers, Jedi, Sith, WARS, Boba-Fett, Darth Vader, the Death Star, Wookie planet, the FORCE, Darth Maul, the Emporer, Storm Troopers, the Falcon, Han Solo, Luke and Leia, Han gets frozen, 2nd death star, way cooler toys, sound tracks out of this world, the opening crawl, did I mention lightsabers?

05-14-2009, 06:55 PM	#135
MCT Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2008 Blu-ray collection:499 Blu-ray reviews: 8 Trading Score:1	I always felt Carl Weathers should have played Anakin.

05-14-2009, 06:57 PM	#136
iori Power Member Member since:Apr 2009 Trading Score:2	Terry Crews should have played Mace Windu

05-14-2009, 07:01 PM	#137
MCT Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2008 Blu-ray collection:499 Blu-ray reviews: 8 Trading Score:1	LOL @ Terry Crews as Mace Windu. The performance would have been alot more spirited at the very least. "You actin like a real McJedi Assshole right now, Anakin"

05-14-2009, 07:04 PM	#138
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	I know, I know! Dave Chappelle as Jedi Master Mace Windu!

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