Star Wars Question Regarding Palpatine/Darth Sidious - Page 6 - Blu-ray Forum

groove93 · 11-11-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dragon

Sorry groove93, just went back and read those comments. I picked up on Palpatine being the Emperor when first viewed The Phantom Menace. That was without knowing any of the back story. I remember viewing and was like..." That's the dude that's gonna become the Emperor!"

I totally agree. When Yoda was talking to Mace Windu about which Sith was killed, and the camera focused on Papatine, right then and there I knew he was the puppet master. Plus when Palpatine talks to Anikan at the end of the movie about watching his progress over the years, hint hint.

Sylin · 11-11-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by groove93

I totally agree. When Yoda was talking to Mace Windu about which Sith was killed, and the camera focused on Papatine, right then and there I knew he was the puppet master. Plus when Palpatine talks to Anikan at the end of the movie about watching his progress over the years, hint hint.

Well there's all that, and the fact that he was portrayed by the same actor in both the original trilogy and the prequels.

Blu Bull · 11-11-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sylin

Well there's all that, and the fact that he was portrayed by the same actor in both the original trilogy and the prequels.

Well, he played him in Return of the Jedi. There was no Emperor in A New Hope, and he was played by a monkey in The Empire Strikes Back.

The Dragon · 11-11-2009, 03:21 PM

That guy who plays the Emperor was perfect for the role. The way he seduces Anakin in Epidode III, at the opera, was classic, subtle, evilness.

Monkey_Boy · 11-11-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Bull

Well, he played him in Return of the Jedi. There was no Emperor in A New Hope, and he was played by a monkey in The Empire Strikes Back.

Actually, it was a woman with a chimp's eyes superimposed over hers.

As far as knowing who the Emperor was in TPM, I only knew because I had read the novelization of ANH and they refered to him as Emperor Palpatine. So it was obvious to me the moment they introduced him! I was all "WHOA! He started out as a senator?!" His rise to power is my favorite thing about the prequels!

DarkDune · 11-11-2009, 03:33 PM

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So I have been watching The Clone Wars Blu-ray and it got me thinking. Now I may have missed something from the second trilogy and I haven't seen Episode 3 in a long time, but here is my question. How long did Palpatine have Order 66 planned? It just interests me that this whole thing happened and all of the Clones knew, yet Yoda and others didn't really have a clue about this.

What I find interesting is that there is some ground that they shouldn't duplicate in The Clone Wars series.

For example -- The Grievous reveal that he actually has four arms! Did they reveal that in the TV series yet -- I forget! It was supposed to be a "surprise" in the films, right?

awongshing · 11-11-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan69969

So...the Sith presumably contract out to a temp agency to staff these institutions?

I'm just kidding and speculating, really. All I know from the mythos is what has been in the films.

Dude check out the Darth Bane books. It gives a good explanation to the rule of 2. I get the sense that Sith can only really survive by hiding their true identities like Dooku and Darth Sidious did. One good Sith to me is way more powerful than a Jedi master. If the Sith are not in hiding I think they would be constantly hunted by the Jedi and wouldn’t really have any time to their real dirty work. Also I think Vader was always a Sith apprentice.

groove93 · 11-11-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by awongshing

Dude check out the Darth Bane books. It gives a good explanation to the rule of 2. I get the sense that Sith can only really survive by hiding their true identities like Dooku and Darth Sidious did. One good Sith to me is way more powerful than a Jedi master. If the Sith are not in hiding I think they would be constantly hunted by the Jedi and wouldn’t really have any time to their real dirty work. Also I think Vader was always a Sith apprentice.

This is why I wish they would make a series set during the times of Darth Bane. This is the start for what's to come with regards to all six movies.

Ator the Invincible · 11-11-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by awongshing

Also I think Vader was always a Sith apprentice.

Yes, he was. The Emperor was the Sith Master and Vader was the Sith Apprentice. They made that clear back in the original trilogy. Vader was always plotting to overthrow Palpatine and take his place as Sith Master. He tried to recruit Luke as his own apprentice should that happen. We all know what happened next.

The Dragon · 11-11-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by awongshing

... Also I think Vader was always a Sith apprentice.

In way yes, but no.

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allowed Anakin's training with The Jedi to commence so he'd be stronger with The Force. Plus, it gave him inside info on The Order he wouldn't have been able to obtain otherwise.

The Order 66 was implanted in the Clone army, and a part of Sidious' master plan, once he took over the Senate. No need for Jedi anymore, time for Vader to assume his position as a Sith Apprentice.

Afrobean · 11-12-2009, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkDune

What I find interesting is that there is some ground that they shouldn't duplicate in The Clone Wars series.

For example -- The Grievous reveal that he actually has four arms! Did they reveal that in the TV series yet -- I forget! It was supposed to be a "surprise" in the films, right?

It was a reveal in Episode III, but fans would have already seen him appear in a different form in the animated Clone Wars using multiple lightsabers. If I recall, he held them in his feet. They changed this for Episode III, however, and that is the form that he has in the new The Clone Wars show. Anyway, Grievous only uses this technique in the film against Obi-wan (recall that he only meets Anakin face-to-face for the first time at the BEGINNING of Episode III), and Obi-wan doesn't seem to be too surprised by it if I recall, although I don't think he ever has even fought Obi-wan on the show yet either. It's not as though this is a continuity error, and it's also basically assumed that people watching The Clone Wars will have at least seen the prequel trilogy, if not all six films.

ZX_VRT · 11-12-2009, 05:31 PM

you really leran more about palapatines plan in the book Labryinth of Evil,
how the jedi were so close to finding him.

Sylin · 11-12-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by groove93

This is why I wish they would make a series set during the times of Darth Bane. This is the start for what's to come with regards to all six movies.

Isn't there some rumor about a live action TV series set in the time of the Old Republic?

dcowboy7 · 11-12-2009, 06:08 PM

Wouldnt palps have known that anakin would want to eventually kill him ?

P@t_Mtl · 11-12-2009, 06:12 PM

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Wouldnt palps have known that anakin would want to eventually kill him ?

He know's it's the way of the Sith but it's clear that what he was looking for was for Luke killing Anakin and becoming his new apprentice.

Diesel · 11-12-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ZX_VRT

you really leran more about palapatines plan in the book Labryinth of Evil,
how the jedi were so close to finding him.

I still haven't finished that book

It's almost time for the holidays and I'm hoping to finally get to rap it up

dcowboy7 · 11-12-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

He know's it's the way of the Sith but it's clear that what he was looking for was for Luke killing Anakin and becoming his new apprentice.

Ok but then Luke would want to kill palps then.

awongshing · 11-12-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Ok but then Luke would want to kill palps then.

Eventually he would. But it's up to Palps to stay one step ahead of his apprentice. There is no leisure time for a Sith Lord.

jadedeath · 11-12-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by awongshing

Eventually he would. But it's up to Palps to stay one step ahead of his apprentice. There is no leisure time for a Sith Lord.

Oh...

*cancels plans to make his Sith Lord bath spa & waterpark*

Logan

awongshing · 11-12-2009, 07:06 PM

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Oh...

*cancels plans to make his Sith Lord bath spa & waterpark*

Logan

That's funny as hell.

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