iPhone Downgrade?

[Teufel Hunden]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

I wouldn't {entirely} say that... I mean they DO have to make money on the product, and Iphones are bleedin' expensive pieces of kit {which is factored into your basic monthly bill when you sign the contract}

Logan

AT&T is rumored to break even after 18 months with the iPhone. That means they make ~$510 profit over the life of your contract, IF you actually kept it 24 months, and I doubt anyone does...

AT&T is giving a good deal, Apple = fail (as usual).

[b0bby]

Originally Posted by Blu350z

its $85 a month after a 18% discount

that is terrible. me and my girl pay 97 plus some tax and fees comes out to 104 per month for TWO iphones with two data plans after employee discount. you are paying 85 for a single line damn. a cost cutting choice would be to get rid of that additional text msging plan option. there are free apps that allow texting and its just the same which is what i use instead of paying at&t money for 100-200 texts. another option is to change your voice plan to a lower amount of minutes. you cannot cancel the data portion of your plan at all.

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by Teufel Hunden

AT&T is giving a good deal, Apple = fail (as usual).

Most of the complaints I hear about the iPhone are AT&T's fault rather than Apple, and I hear a lot. Hardware wise, the iPhone is solid. And AT&T's iPhone plans are hardly a good deal.

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by BStecke

Most of the complaints I hear about the iPhone are AT&T's fault rather than Apple, and I hear a lot. Hardware wise, the iPhone is solid. And AT&T's iPhone plans are hardly a good deal.

Yep, while I don't personally like Apple the iPhone is a good phone. AT&T has been handling their network horribly though and didn't anticipate the amount of people that would flood their data services.

[DonRSD]

Originally Posted by BStecke

No 3G on T-Mobile is the only downside to that. But yeah, for 60 bucks you could have 500 minutes and unlimited text/data. I rocked an unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile for awhile, but have since taken a shine to Android.

are you crazy!?!?
$49.99 for unlimited talk and $10 for unlimited text/pic messaging.

sure i dont get 3g....but i use edge for free & wifi for free.

i have a g1 for sale if anyone is interested.
i used it for maybe 3 months and went back to my iphone on tmobile

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by Teufel Hunden

AT&T is rumored to break even after 18 months with the iPhone. That means they make ~$510 profit over the life of your contract, IF you actually kept it 24 months, and I doubt anyone does...

AT&T is giving a good deal, Apple = fail (as usual).

Oh noes... a company making money? Anything but that... why would they ever want to make money and keep people employeed to fuel the economy...

That's crazy talk!

Companies should just run as charities and give everyone an immediate 900% increase in pay!!

Seriously... once you understand economics, you'll understand why AT&T has to charge so much for it, not only that: {as someone previously stated} if you don't like what's in the contract when you sign for the phone, then DON'T SIGN THE CONTRACT!

It's pretty-much that simple.

You don't NEED the Iphone {for those that do have it} you WANT the Iphone, there's a subtle {actually it's anything but} difference between the two. You can get a phone that has pay-as-you-go capabilities and just exist off of that, most people who've I've seen with Iphones {even business professionals} don't NEED it, it's a status symbol for people who can't afford a Benz.

What's even more funny is to have people sign the contract {which was never hidden from the customer} and then b**ch about the price of the contract. Endlessly. It's not only annoying, it also makes you look kinda stupid for signing something without full understanding of what was going on. {or simply READING the contract}

Logan

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by b0bby

that is terrible. me and my girl pay 97 plus some tax and fees comes out to 104 per month for TWO iphones with two data plans after employee discount. you are paying 85 for a single line damn. a cost cutting choice would be to get rid of that additional text msging plan option. there are free apps that allow texting and its just the same which is what i use instead of paying at&t money for 100-200 texts. another option is to change your voice plan to a lower amount of minutes. you cannot cancel the data portion of your plan at all.

how much is your employee discount?

Logan

[b0bby]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

how much is your employee discount?

Logan

25%. i think sprint and verizon is 27% but i'm so used to sim-based phones for so long.

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by DonRSD

are you crazy!?!?
$49.99 for unlimited talk and $10 for unlimited text/pic messaging.

sure i dont get 3g....but i use edge for free & wifi for free.

Why would I be crazy? If somebody doesn't need unlimited minutes, then that doesn't seem like that great of a deal, especially considering you've got no data on a phone that is pretty much worthless without data. Like a V6 Mustang with Cobra badges on it to me, but, to each their own.

[metalgeargreed]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Oh noes... a company making money? Anything but that... why would they ever want to make money and keep people employeed to fuel the economy...

That's crazy talk!

Companies should just run as charities and give everyone an immediate 900% increase in pay!!

Seriously... once you understand economics, you'll understand why AT&T has to charge so much for it, not only that: {as someone previously stated} if you don't like what's in the contract when you sign for the phone, then DON'T SIGN THE CONTRACT!

It's pretty-much that simple.

You don't NEED the Iphone {for those that do have it} you WANT the Iphone, there's a subtle {actually it's anything but} difference between the two. You can get a phone that has pay-as-you-go capabilities and just exist off of that, most people who've I've seen with Iphones {even business professionals} don't NEED it, it's a status symbol for people who can't afford a Benz.

What's even more funny is to have people sign the contract {which was never hidden from the customer} and then b**ch about the price of the contract. Endlessly. It's not only annoying, it also makes you look kinda stupid for signing something without full understanding of what was going on. {or simply READING the contract}

Logan

Preach.

[DonRSD]

Originally Posted by BStecke

Why would I be crazy? If somebody doesn't need unlimited minutes, then that doesn't seem like that great of a deal, especially considering you've got no data on a phone that is pretty much worthless without data. Like a V6 Mustang with Cobra badges on it to me, but, to each their own.

of course i have data

im grandfathered into a 'tzones plan' for $5.99/mo which i hack easily on the iphone

sure i dont get 3g, but i get unlimited everything including the 'edge internet'

to have att for the plan i have (unlimited everything) and to get '3g internet' youre paying 200/mo

no thanks.

plus i have no contract and if my phone breaks i buy another iphone for $150, pop my tmobile sim card into it and im good to go

i was thinking about going to sprint for the $100 everything plan, but i really like the iphone

[Uniquely]

Originally Posted by MaCruz

I'm a long time AT&T customer, but I'm a brand new cutomer as far as iPhones or any high tech phones out there. I too also have the same discount so my bill will jump from $45 to about $85 a month. I wish you can just connect to an existing wi-fi spot instead of buying the that data internet service. We'll see how that goes for me...

Same boat here.... but last year. I liked my wife's iPhone so much.... I got one to be my very first cellular phone! I hate phones with a passion. I don't talk on them if I can help it. But the iPhone was like an awesome little micro tablet that I could carry in my pocket. Two iPhones cost us about $150 a month. We each have a 1500 text plan and I don't know how many minutes, but it's way more than either of us ever use.

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by robinandtami

Same boat here.... but last year. I liked my wife's iPhone so much.... I got one to be my very first cellular phone! I hate phones with a passion. I don't talk on them if I can help it. But the iPhone was like an awesome little micro tablet that I could carry in my pocket. Two iPhones cost us about $150 a month. We each have a 1500 text plan and I don't know how many minutes, but it's way more than either of us ever use.

Unlimited text isn't included as part of unlimited data? That's kind of odd.

[MaCruz]

Originally Posted by mikejet

Unlimited text isn't included as part of unlimited data? That's kind of odd.

No it's not because "I thought" when you switch to the iPhone you get unlimited text, but no... I still have 200 text for $5. I hope I don't need to upgrade to the next one which is 1,000 text for $10 (I Think)

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by MaCruz

No it's not because "I thought" when you switch to the iPhone you get unlimited text, but no... I still have 200 text for $5. I hope I don't need to upgrade to the next one which is 1,000 text for $10 (I Think)

Just keep in mind those monthly totals are usually a combined REC/SENT. So I would upgrade to unlimited if you get a lot of text messages.

My plan fro T-Mobile has unlimited text/email and I'm currently at 377 and it was reset on 1/3/10.

Do emails count as data or messages for your plan?

[Uniquely]

Originally Posted by mikejet

Just keep in mind those monthly totals are usually a combined REC/SENT. So I would upgrade to unlimited if you get a lot of text messages.

My plan fro T-Mobile has unlimited text/email and I'm currently at 377 and it was reset on 1/3/10.

Do emails count as data or messages for your plan?

Email is data.

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by DonRSD

of course i have data

im grandfathered into a 'tzones plan' for $5.99/mo which i hack easily on the iphone

sure i dont get 3g, but i get unlimited everything including the 'edge internet'

to have att for the plan i have (unlimited everything) and to get '3g internet' youre paying 200/mo

no thanks.

plus i have no contract and if my phone breaks i buy another iphone for $150, pop my tmobile sim card into it and im good to go

i was thinking about going to sprint for the $100 everything plan, but i really like the iphone

Not really trying to start an argument, but how does that have anything to do with what I originally posted? I'm very aware of what AT&T charges their iPhone customers, hence why I said the OP could get basically the same thing about about $60 a month by unlocking the phone and going with T-Mobile.