C/NET - Prizefight: Xbox360 vs. Sony PS3 - Blu-ray Forum

Fr0stiE · 02-12-2007, 03:36 AM

You know... the real reason Sony was able to pick up on the metal gear/final fantasy series was because Nintendo refused to use compact disc as their format of choice (stuck to rom cartridges which were more expensive to make and harder SDK to work with) with the S-NES and N-64. Squaresoft and Konami jumped over to Sony Playstation for the main titles and every now and then would release a baby game to the hand held platforms.

BluManta - The xbox has 3 processors but the playstation3 has 8.

The ps3 games can hold more data (up to 50gb)then a xbox game (9gb)

Actually the 360 has a single cpu with three cores @ 3.2ghz by IBM and the PS3 is a single cpu with eight SPEs (7-SPEs for work & 1 SPE for redundancy) also at 3.2ghz also by IBM (and Sony and Toshiba.. LOL.)

I believe that the GPU (Graphics) on the 360 (ATI) is a lot better than the one on PS3 (Nvidia). This doesn't really matter in that both platforms support 1080p... I think all the games for the most part look great for the first run of the bunch, but I hate that the games have a bubble element to them for graphic quality. (Ninty-nine nights, Gears of War, Resistance: Fall of Man etc...) you'll notice that about 1/3 of the distance from your main view the graphic quality on these games gets pretty gritty. That's just me!

If PS3 net is free, it's because they need to develop a bigger user base, so free is understandable. (How can you charge someone for online multi-player battlefields that don't yet exist?) I like the X-Box live package, in that just about every game made so far has extra content available and it's already got a huge user base. The only thing I've been able to find on Sony Net is a firmware update to make the PS3 allow PS2 games play at 480p now instead of 480i which was one letter worse than the PS2 did before this update came about. Still I wish that Sony would add a feature to allow Anti-Aliasing or a better filtering technique to be used as well. (maybe take advantage of that great GPU

)

As for the media space available... 54g is a double sided Blu-ray disc that will add nothing to the PS3's value as far as gaming is concerned. Fact is that the game industry just started releasing games on dual-layer dvds and the biggest game I've seen released (retail-box) is Vanguard (PC) which consisted of two dual-layer dvds for installation. Which might explain the 360 not having HD-dvd at launch (other than no titles being available.) I hear 360 v2 will have the HD-dvd built into it. Doesn't really matter now... 360 is dropping in price and the stand alone HD-dvd player can connect to a PC as well the 360.
None of this really matters anyways, since the ability to play a HD movie on these rigs is only present due to the media format war for the HD movie experience, and has very little to do with the console as far as gaming is concerned. It's all about money, and if we as a consumer benefit from this format war it's all good.

It's nice that the PS3 has a blu-ray already installed. This helps justify the cost of the system at $500, I purchased the $600 version. People should understand that this was a marketing move to help Sony solidify their Blu-ray dvd format and very little to do with the console as a gaming rig. Honestly, I was a bit disappointed with my PS3 at first because it didn't come with Component cables (it came with composite - I mean, seriously, a game console that advocates HD-Gaming and movies not coming with the minimum cable requirements for the HD format is like packaging a Ferrari with Cinder Blocks for wheels completely ridiculous.) or a universal remote for dvd/bd usage. I mean my 360 came with a component/composite cable and the HD-dvd drive came with a movie as well a universal remote.

I use my PS3 more than my 360 at the moment, but not for gaming. It turns out that the PS3 is a great standard dvd player (much better than the 360 & like the stand alone Sony players before it with the 12mb Vdac.) as well the fact that I own 3 bd movies now. I don't own a single PS3 game yet, which is fine because I've a lot of catching up to do with the PS2 games. Thank goodness for that firmware patch, now I can take full advantage of the Component cable I had to buy from Best Buy, which should have been included with the system. I do own 6 games for my 360 and 3 HD-dvd movies.

I appreciate both of these consoles for the unique features & games they both have. When it comes down to it, for me a PC is still the ultimate gaming rig. PS3 has the Nostalgia Gaming factor going for it since a majority of game design teams went to Play Station during the console wars of the 90's. Wii, will earn a sale from me because of the Zelda/Metroid series, and the motion controller is pretty kewl. If anyone understands what makes a game great it's the design teams of Nintendo & the Zelda, Metal Gear, and Final fantasy series. I like Eye-Candy as much as the next person but just because a game looks good doesn't mean it'll be fun.

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02-12-2007, 03:36 AM	#26
Fr0stiE Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Southern California	You know... the real reason Sony was able to pick up on the metal gear/final fantasy series was because Nintendo refused to use compact disc as their format of choice (stuck to rom cartridges which were more expensive to make and harder SDK to work with) with the S-NES and N-64. Squaresoft and Konami jumped over to Sony Playstation for the main titles and every now and then would release a baby game to the hand held platforms. BluManta - The xbox has 3 processors but the playstation3 has 8. The ps3 games can hold more data (up to 50gb)then a xbox game (9gb) Actually the 360 has a single cpu with three cores @ 3.2ghz by IBM and the PS3 is a single cpu with eight SPEs (7-SPEs for work & 1 SPE for redundancy) also at 3.2ghz also by IBM (and Sony and Toshiba.. LOL.) I believe that the GPU (Graphics) on the 360 (ATI) is a lot better than the one on PS3 (Nvidia). This doesn't really matter in that both platforms support 1080p... I think all the games for the most part look great for the first run of the bunch, but I hate that the games have a bubble element to them for graphic quality. (Ninty-nine nights, Gears of War, Resistance: Fall of Man etc...) you'll notice that about 1/3 of the distance from your main view the graphic quality on these games gets pretty gritty. That's just me! If PS3 net is free, it's because they need to develop a bigger user base, so free is understandable. (How can you charge someone for online multi-player battlefields that don't yet exist?) I like the X-Box live package, in that just about every game made so far has extra content available and it's already got a huge user base. The only thing I've been able to find on Sony Net is a firmware update to make the PS3 allow PS2 games play at 480p now instead of 480i which was one letter worse than the PS2 did before this update came about. Still I wish that Sony would add a feature to allow Anti-Aliasing or a better filtering technique to be used as well. (maybe take advantage of that great GPU ) As for the media space available... 54g is a double sided Blu-ray disc that will add nothing to the PS3's value as far as gaming is concerned. Fact is that the game industry just started releasing games on dual-layer dvds and the biggest game I've seen released (retail-box) is Vanguard (PC) which consisted of two dual-layer dvds for installation. Which might explain the 360 not having HD-dvd at launch (other than no titles being available.) I hear 360 v2 will have the HD-dvd built into it. Doesn't really matter now... 360 is dropping in price and the stand alone HD-dvd player can connect to a PC as well the 360. None of this really matters anyways, since the ability to play a HD movie on these rigs is only present due to the media format war for the HD movie experience, and has very little to do with the console as far as gaming is concerned. It's all about money, and if we as a consumer benefit from this format war it's all good. It's nice that the PS3 has a blu-ray already installed. This helps justify the cost of the system at $500, I purchased the $600 version. People should understand that this was a marketing move to help Sony solidify their Blu-ray dvd format and very little to do with the console as a gaming rig. Honestly, I was a bit disappointed with my PS3 at first because it didn't come with Component cables (it came with composite - I mean, seriously, a game console that advocates HD-Gaming and movies not coming with the minimum cable requirements for the HD format is like packaging a Ferrari with Cinder Blocks for wheels completely ridiculous.) or a universal remote for dvd/bd usage. I mean my 360 came with a component/composite cable and the HD-dvd drive came with a movie as well a universal remote. I use my PS3 more than my 360 at the moment, but not for gaming. It turns out that the PS3 is a great standard dvd player (much better than the 360 & like the stand alone Sony players before it with the 12mb Vdac.) as well the fact that I own 3 bd movies now. I don't own a single PS3 game yet, which is fine because I've a lot of catching up to do with the PS2 games. Thank goodness for that firmware patch, now I can take full advantage of the Component cable I had to buy from Best Buy, which should have been included with the system. I do own 6 games for my 360 and 3 HD-dvd movies. I appreciate both of these consoles for the unique features & games they both have. When it comes down to it, for me a PC is still the ultimate gaming rig. PS3 has the Nostalgia Gaming factor going for it since a majority of game design teams went to Play Station during the console wars of the 90's. Wii, will earn a sale from me because of the Zelda/Metroid series, and the motion controller is pretty kewl. If anyone understands what makes a game great it's the design teams of Nintendo & the Zelda, Metal Gear, and Final fantasy series. I like Eye-Candy as much as the next person but just because a game looks good doesn't mean it'll be fun.

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