Is this true about high definition movies?

[billymcmoy]

This is what is says from about.com explaning about blu ray.

"NOTE: Although, currently, high definition resolution can be accessed using the Component Video connections of an Blu-ray or HD-DVD player, this is at the movie studios' discretion. In the future, discs may be encoded to allow access to high definition resolution only via the HDMI connection.

The reason for this is that although the Component Video connections allow owners of older, pre-HDMI, or DVI-HDTV-equipped, HDTVs to enjoy the benefits of Blu-ray and HD-DVD, video signals traveling through component connections are more easily pirated that than those the travel through the digitally copy-protected signal traveling"

is this true because my TV has only got componant no HDMI. i am getting a
PS3 soon so does it mean i won't be able to view blu ray movie disks?

thanks for your time!

[Guinness7]

Currently I do not think anybody is using that protection and dont know if they ever will. The ps3 has component hookup as well as hdmi so you can still watch your videos in hd.

[Unkn0wn47]

That is correct. You can use the component cables that are in the box; however, you will not get the best picture quality. Sounds like your TV only supports 480i so that is a huge diffrence visually (if the TV is big enough) from 1080p. If you have the extra money; you can get a nice rear projection for about 2k that will support 1080p. Currently there are no native 1080p games for the PS3; almost all of them are 720p; which is still pretty good.

[CJS234]

Originally Posted by Unkn0wn47

Currently there are no native 1080p games for the PS3; almost all of them are 720p; which is still pretty good.

I thought NBA 07 was in 1080...? Im confused now lol

[Deciazulado]

When I played Marvel UA briefly it played in 1080p

[mlgacc]

Originally Posted by CJS234

I thought NBA 07 was in 1080...? Im confused now lol

NBA 07 is 1080p

[McBain]

Originally Posted by billymcmoy

This is what is says from about.com explaning about blu ray.

"NOTE: Although, currently, high definition resolution can be accessed using the Component Video connections of an Blu-ray or HD-DVD player, this is at the movie studios' discretion. In the future, discs may be encoded to allow access to high definition resolution only via the HDMI connection.

The reason for this is that although the Component Video connections allow owners of older, pre-HDMI, or DVI-HDTV-equipped, HDTVs to enjoy the benefits of Blu-ray and HD-DVD, video signals traveling through component connections are more easily pirated that than those the travel through the digitally copy-protected signal traveling"

is this true because my TV has only got componant no HDMI. i am getting a
PS3 soon so does it mean i won't be able to view blu ray movie disks?

thanks for your time!

For more information see:

http://www.emedialive.com/articles/r...rticleid=11424

[GasCat]

To the OP: I thought I would throw in that my Samsung DLP will play 1080p only through HDMI. It has nothing to do with the format type. This is becuase of "HDCP". You may want to read up on that.

[Chris Gerhard]

Originally Posted by GasCat

To the OP: I thought I would throw in that my Samsung DLP will play 1080p only through HDMI. It has nothing to do with the format type. This is becuase of "HDCP". You may want to read up on that.

HDCP doesn't have anything to do with whether Blu-ray will play at 1080p over component. If the player is designed to play 1080p over component, then the ICT (image constraint token) is all that should prevent that if it is ever used and it will also prevent 720p and 1080i. As far as whether or not your display accepts 1080p over component, I don't know, but that would have to be the case for 1080p playback.

Chris

[Stuie]

There are few games out in 1080p.

It's probably best to head towards HDMI anyway instead of component.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

HDCP doesn't have anything to do with whether Blu-ray will play at 1080p over component. If the player is designed to play 1080p over component, then the ICT (image constraint token) is all that should prevent that if it is ever used and it will also prevent 720p and 1080i. As far as whether or not your display accepts 1080p over component, I don't know, but that would have to be the case for 1080p playback.

Chris

Chris my PS3 can output 1080p over component but says copyright-protected discs can only be output at 1080p using an HDMI cable connected to a device that is compatible with the HDCP standard.

[Chris Gerhard]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Chris my PS3 can output 1080p over component but says copyright-protected discs can only be output at 1080p using an HDMI cable connected to a device that is compatible with the HDCP standard.

HDCP, High Definintion Digital Content Protection has nothing to do with analog component connections. Whatever the message is doesn't matter, my statement stands. HDCP has nothing to do with whether a player outputs 1080p over component. If a player is designed to output 1080p over component, it is the image constraint token that can stop that, not HDCP. Messages can state whatever is written, it could state the man in moon doesn't permit it, but that won't change the basic fact. HDCP is digital connection copy protection and has nothing whatsoever to do with analog component connections which have no copy protection as far as I know. Again, the ICT or image constraint token is what can be used to prevent any HD resolution over component. I have seen messages regarding HDCP with other players and I don't know why the messages are written as they are. HDCP is designed for use with DVI and HDMI compatible devices and displays. Here is the Wikipedia article on HDCP:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP

Chris

[jorg]

Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

HDCP doesn't have anything to do with whether Blu-ray will play at 1080p over component. If the player is designed to play 1080p over component, then the ICT (image constraint token) is all that should prevent that if it is ever used and it will also prevent 720p and 1080i. As far as whether or not your display accepts 1080p over component, I don't know, but that would have to be the case for 1080p playback.

Chris

no u are wroung hdcp has everything to do with it that why u can`t play movie without hdcp complaint stuff like component cables which i believe is all comerial movies(only hd ones tho). dose your tv have a dvi plug or just component?

dvi-hdcp-yes
hdmi -hdcp yes
component-hdcp-no

[Chris Gerhard]

Originally Posted by jorg

no u are wroung hdcp has everything to do with it that why u can`t play movie without hdcp complaint stuff like component cables which i believe is all comerial movies(only hd ones tho). dose your tv have a dvi plug or just component?

dvi-hdcp-yes
hdmi -hdcp yes
component-hdcp-no

I don't know what this means, but my displays have both HDCP compliant DVI and component or both HDMI and component. I am not sure you understood what I stated which was HDCP has nothing to do with constraining output over component connections. So far all Blu-ray discs can be played at 1080p over component connections, only the player or the display design prevents that currently since the ICT, Image Constraint Token, has not been used. If you have a display that accepts 1080p over component and a player that outputs 1080p over component, you are good to go with all discs so far.

If I owned a non HDCP compliant display with component connections, I could play all Blu-ray or HD DVD discs released to date at whatever resolution permitted by my player and display, no constraints have been used yet.

Chris

[billymcmoy]

This is stupid! all of us with only compoant TV'S will have to put up with down scalling the image to non high def! This is due to ICT/HDCP or something like that. Do between now and 2010, i will have to pay money to buy a TV that has HDMI. Oh well, i don't have to do it yet, i can still go through another 4 years watching blu ray movies through componant.

[Deciazulado]

billymcmoy, why do you keep creating threads all over the forum asking this question again which has alredy a thread with answers, with topic titles as Is this true about Blu-ray?!?!? and Why can't Blu-ray movies be played through compoant in 2010!?!?

Do you feel like a Pyromaniac? Those end up burning up you know.


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[JTK]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

billymcmoy, why do you keep creating threads all over the forum asking this question again which has alredy a thread with answers, with topic titles as Is this true about Blu-ray?!?!? and Why can't Blu-ray movies be played through compoant in 2010!?!?

I think the answer is pretty obvious myself, but YMMV.

[billymcmoy]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

billymcmoy, why do you keep creating threads all over the forum asking this question again which has alredy a thread with answers, with topic titles as Is this true about Blu-ray?!?!? and Why can't Blu-ray movies be played through compoant in 2010!?!?

Do you feel like a Pyromaniac? Those end up burning up you know.


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i keep posting them because i never get a straight answer or i can never find my questions that i posted earlier!!

[JTK]

Originally Posted by billymcmoy

i keep posting them because i never get a straight answer or i can never find my questions that i posted earlier!!

Time to calm down and maybe consider using a search engine while you're at it if you're really that impatient.

I guarantee you that you'll find all your answers and then some and probably a lot faster than waiting for someone to hit one of your threads.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by billymcmoy

i keep posting them because i never get a straight answer or i can never find my questions that i posted earlier!!

It is very easy to find a question you have asked and can't find. Just do a search on your posts

Here's yet another thread you started that has a similar theme in case you haven't seen it again:

Can i still watch Blu-ray films on my PS3 via componant??

Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

HDCP, High Definintion Digital Content Protection has nothing to do with analog component connections. Whatever the message is doesn't matter, my statement stands. HDCP has nothing to do with whether a player outputs 1080p over component.

I re-read what you said before and you're right. I read it all backwards as if you were saying that HDCP would be the reason there couldn't be 1080p over component.. As Gilda Radner would say, Never Mind